not really sure what you're goin on about Lynnevans tbh,.
But i did end up getting these Lancome testers cos was getting my sister her premiordial pressie... And the eye make-up remover works really well. no rubbing jus glides off.
Picked up a tip too... Let eye make-up remover sit on lids for a minute then take off.. hopefully you dont have one of those stingy ones..
Got the L'Oreal gentle eye make-up remover one before and its crap!